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The end of Fugitives and some general comments on season 3.

Summary: As at the end of the season, Sylar is Nathan with Matt, Angela and Noah in the know. Tracey is back and able to move around as water. The President has been saved and is preparing to fund a new Company to be run by Noah. Hiro is no longer able to use time stop as he is "rejecting" the ability.

General comments: Well, that brings to mind the saying "Be careful what you wish for"! I did indeed get to see Nathan taken down in preference to Sylar. I liked that the Fugitives plot was about saving the President rather than the world and that they succeeded. I'll also echo [livejournal.com profile] bateleur's comment on how much more competent Peter becomes when the weapon he's using isn't a gun! Odd to see a season one main character dead since the first season - although the actor will obviously still be around. I liked how season four has been set-up as well, even though I despair of what they did to get there.

Continuity errors and other weirds: Should we even go there? Such a bad plan to use Sylar - getting Peter to be Nathan long enough to set up the Company would have worked. Also, why couldn't Nathan be brought back from the dead with Claire's blood as various people were in season two?

Season 3 stuff in general:

Good/OK things:
- That Fugitives was not about stopping a mass death scenario.
- Arthur Petrelli.
- Micah as Rebel.
- Peter finally succeeding with a plan in a volume finale.
- That they seemed to accept that many of their heroes were way over-powered.
- The Haitian (pity he wasn't in Fugitives).
- That Heroes moves around its type of plots to different characters; neither Peter or Hiro had a sniff of a romance in season three.
- Pretty much every last plot that Matt had (with the possible exception of his extremely sudden falling in love with Daphne).
- Ando's sidekick power.
- That Noah is in charge of the new company.
- The set-up for season four.

Bad/less OK things:
- The Sylar becomes Nathan thing from a realistic viewpoint.
- How they powered down Peter and Hiro.
- That no-one in Fugitives appeared to have a plan that went beyond an episode.
- Treatment of women; both [livejournal.com profile] bateleur and I were struck by the line-up of people who were going to be injected - every last one was a bloke.
- Mohinder going evil.
- How they got to the set-up for season four.
- All the sudden, random plot changes that looked like reactions to audience feedback (eg. Sylar being a Petrelli); although I usually felt they were moving away from a bad plot.
- Elle's death.
- That Hiro is back to powerless.
- That Sylar could fail to take down Peter and Nathan at once - aka why we don't see the fight.

Other points of note:
- Despite adding all sorts of additional heroes in seasons two and three (eg. Maya, Elle, Daphne, West, etc.) only the season one people are still around at the end.
- Villains and Fugitives had completely different strengths and weaknesses. Villains had excellent plot pace, a good set of villains and a lot of interesting ideas. However it sucked at character consistency, at character development and sucked rather a lot at continuity as well. Fugitives, on the other hand, was rather rubbish at plot pace, never seemed to have grand plot pretensions but was much better at consistent characters and consistent themes and got away from the whole "save the world" thing.
- There were an awful lot of nods to things that happened in season one (eg. the Peter/Mohinder taxi ride, Sylar's mother) but still a lot of consistency errors.
- Having inched things on only a few months across seasons one and two, season three has a much larger time gap in the middle (some months I think). Plus season four looks to be set some time after season three.

Things I learnt from deleted scenes:
- Why there was so little Matt: Matt featured in a series of deleted scenes detailing Knox's background (the Fear guy).
- How Arthur Petrelli found people: Another pair of deleted scenes relate to Arthur learning about Molly and then stealing her ability.
- There was an explanation as to how Ando and Hiro - two wanted criminals - managed to fly to India. Admittedly, not a terribly good one.
- There were a number of scenes giving more background to Nathan and Tracey's relationship - including the death of Dr Zimmerman.

Date: 2009-10-26 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] floralaetifica.livejournal.com
Such a bad plan to use Sylar

I think this may actually rank as the worst plan in the history of bad plans.

I mean, I know this entire season was a swiss cheese when it comes to logic and consistency, but of all the things that made no sense, this is definitely the king. (Lesser nonsensical things bow before it.) Noone is that stupid. Even PCs aren't that dumb.

Date: 2009-10-27 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrlloyd.livejournal.com
As bad a plan as it is, it is a much, much worse piece of script writing.

Date: 2009-10-27 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lathany.livejournal.com
How do you mean?

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